RE: Verses that show everyone will go to heaven

-"There's absolutely no verses that say everyone will go to heaven eventually" with all respect, there actually is a verse that says this. I quoted it earlier and it is John 6:37. It says "ALL that the Father giveth me, SHALL COME TO ME, and him that cometh to me I will in nowise cast out". As we know from an earlier verse, God gave everyone on the planet to Jesus and according to this, they all going to come to him. We know that in order to be saved, you must enter Christ consciousness. Then the verse goes on to even say that these people will not be cast out. So they will be saved. The concept of an eternal hell fire was created by cherry picking many different unrelated verses from different parts of the bible and putting them together. I have never seen a verse that says all in one place something like "when we die, we all go to judgment where we will either go to heaven or hell. Sin sends us to hell but accepting Jesus will get you eternal life". You just cannot do that without quoting all sorts of different verses that are unrelated to each other

-You quoted Revelation 14:9-11 NIV. This is not a good verse to sport the idea of hell for a number of reasons. Firstly, as we all know, revelations is a symbolic book and is not meant to be taken literally. We can be sure of this because in the begging of it, the angel tells John that the visions his seeing are metaphorical and he even explains the symbolism of some of them. We don’t take the part where it says “will drink of the wine” as being literal alcohol. So why take the flame part as being literal. That's cherry picking. Why should the burning flames be literal but the beasts with many heads are figurative of something else.

I think the wine represents sin and the burning is the pain of being disconnected from God due to sinning. Many bad decisions such as addictions can lead to suffering in this life and the next. It is not a literal fire just like the candle sticks or the beast with many heads in this book are not either. All metaphorical.

-You also mention Romans 9:21-24 NIV. I do not read mention of the word hell here and I also do not see it saying we will eternally burn in hell. This verse compares God making us to how a potter makes clay. Due to him creating us, he has power over ourselves. It also says he is allowed to destroy the vessels. You assumed that this destroying of the vessels is symbolic of eternal hell fire. Its not healthy to assume things like this. This verse is actually very vague and metaphorical. The destruction spoken about here could be physical death. It would not be surprising because in the bible, God has ended the life of people who have sinned. It could also be symbolic of all sorts of other things. Why jump to the conclusion that this has something to do with hell when it does not specifically say so

-You also quote Matthew 7:13-14 which talks about how the path to destruction is wide but the gate is narrow which leads to eternal life. Notice how it says destruction but the word “hell” or "eternal" is not anywhere here? Why? Why doesn't Jesus ever talk about this stuff directly all in one place? Its almost like we need to search for verses that vaguely represent hell. What kind of destruction is this verse referring to? It could be physical death.

Now remember that Jesus did not write the bible. My research has lead me to believe that when Jesus spoke of eternal life, he was speaking about living forever without having to die and reincarnate. Now at first that might sound a little weird to you. You probably believe that reincarnation is not a Christian concept and I also use to think so. I then actually found that the religion of Christianity today is very different to the original one. At some point, the Roman Empire adopted the Christian religion however they did so to control the population. They first tried to kill off the Christians but when they found that they were too large in numbers, they began distorting their faith. One of the things they did was burn and destroy all the gnostic holly scriptures (the ones that spoke about things such as reincarnation). The Christians use to have a lot of texts that spoke about things like being born again into other physical bodies. This was unknown for a long time until archaeologists began digging up these scriptures. Here you can read up more about them https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nag_Hammadi_library.

The reason why the Roman Empire got rid of them was because they wanted to create a system they could use to control people. So created the idea of an eternal hell or heaven you go to after you die. Then the one you end up in will be based on whether you believed in Jesus or not (their religion). This way they could convert more people and get them under one faith. Before then the concept of being punished forever for not believing in a god, was an odd idea.

They got people to believe this distortion through burning books that spoke about Jesus true teachings and misquoting many unrelated verses in the canon bible. Examples include some of the stuff you have given me such as revelations (symbolic book), Romans 9:21-24, Matthew 7:13-14, etc. If you were never taught about the concept of eternal hell and you read the bible, there would be nothing in these verses that would lead you to believe that its talking about eternal punishment after death.

It is weird though. Even with the churches attempts to leave reincarnation out of the bible, there is still verses that seem to reference it in our canon bible we have today.

Here is a link to a video going through some of these verses- https://steemit.com/spiritual/@dreasalb/bible-verses-that-seem-to-confirm-reincarnation-being-biblical

Also if the idea of reincarnation sounds a bit hindu, you would be surprised to know that there is actually a wealth of evidence in the form of ancient texts that Jesus actually did go to India to study there

https://steemit.com/jesus/@dreasalb/proof-that-jesus-visited-india-to-study-under-the-gurus-there

So when Jesus talks about eternal life without death, he is talking about escaping having to repeatedly die from the reincarnation cycle. When you reincarnate, you are forced to go through death over and over again. Eternal life is when you escape the physical world and no longer need to reincarnate. Due to the life not being interrupted by deaths, it is known as eternal life. In reincarnation, the life you have is not eternal. You keep dying and suffering in a physical world

Hindus and early Christians believed that you died to pay back negative karma from the past. Negative karma (hindu faith)=sin (Christian faith). So through sin, we forced to reincarnate and die repeatedly. Hence why through sin (negative karma), death entered the world. This is why Matthew 7:13-14 says the gate to destruction is wide. It is because there is no many things you can do which will result in you coming back here to pay off your karma. Hell still exists but its not eternal. I think when you die, there is a waiting period before you get a new body. This can be years. If you were a bad person, you might end up in hell during this stage

• 2 Peter 3:9 NIV which is another verse you mentioned does not make it clear that some people will perish like you say it does. It just says God is patient and wants everyone to be saved

-Lastly you said that you have a hard time believe that God is going to let someone who is like Hitler would go to heaven. I have a hard time believing that someone like Hitler just needs to accept Jesus before he dies, repent and he will go to heaven. I also find a hard time believing that the wage for any sin is eternal hell fire. So that means if you tell a lie once, you going to burn with the same punishment as a rapist. I believe the punishment you receive is proportional to what you have done. Someone like Hitler will not go to heaven for as long as his a Hitler. An individual like that would first need to change himself to be more pure

Regardless of what we did, we all will at some point be saved as John 6:37says "ALL that the Father giveth me, SHALL COME TO ME, and him that cometh to me I will in nowise cast out".