post i responding to here. because i spent so much time on this i wanted a record for myself that i could find easily. hopefully some here will find it interesting.
thanks kerriknox. this is an excellent post of just how big the conspiracy is. but i respectfully disagree on many points that you claim flat earthers believe.
and given the size, and the amount of money involved... you really think no one would be interested in doing it? NASA takes in 17,647,000,000 in 2014 that is 48,000,000 a day. that is just nasa. imagine all the guys leeching off this system.
i'm sure 99% of the people working for all those companies have no idea. compartmentalization is how we made the nuclear bomb (if we did, i kinda doubt it sometimes, given lack of fallout in hiroshima [they literally rebuilt the city immediately, and trees where growing... immediately... where was the fallout???]) but anyway, i digress. yes, i doubt everything, but God (and i doubted that for 28+ years before seeing patterns in my life i could not deny).
Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions.” - G. K. Chesterton (1930) mass belief and false consensus effect. everyone believes it so it must be true!
Every scientist around the world in the 500 years all the way back to Galileo
they studied it given an assumption, they didn't prove anything.
they found useful means of prediction, that is not proof of anything.
The image below shows that there are approximately 600,000 studies mentioning the curvature of the earth. According to flat earthers, every one of these was faked, or the scientists were lying.
so does that mean santa claus is real too? just because you studied it doesn't mean it proves anything.
Every planetarium in the world
why? they just show the stars, the believe the ideas they have been told..
Every astronomer, Every astrophysicist
try to discuss the flat earth, they find they have no proof of a globe.. they aren't malicious, just didn't think they were being lied to. everything is so compartmentalized. that is the secret, only those that see the big picture are going to catch it, and then only if they are willing to go against everything they have been taught is truth (when it is just a theory) and be attacked by the conspirators. there are lots of people that did this, you don't hear about them because they lost their jobs.
that is how it is kept quiet. fear. you tried to do that to me.
Gyroscope manufacturers
well the guys that make the ones for the airplanes must know. talk to any pilot, ask if they pitch the nose of their planes down every few minutes to keep from gaining altitude... because that is what you'd need to do. but they don't... there are pilots joining flat earth as well.
Coriolis flow meter manufacturers
A mass flow meter, also known as an inertial flow meter is a device that measures mass flow rate of a fluid traveling through a tube. The mass flow rate is the mass of the fluid traveling past a fixed point per unit time.
what? explain how this is relevant..
All geodetic surveyors
why all? just the top folks, the rest use equipment.
All theodolite manufacturers
A theodolite is a precision instrument for measuring angles in the horizontal and vertical planes. Theodolites are used mainly for surveying applications, and have been adapted for specialized purposes such as meteorology and rocket launch.
even if used for rocket launch, does it need to be rigged to work as if a globe earth?
Creators of theodolite app
why? they just use the hacked data from the gps. gps works, somehow, but not as we think it does.
All globe manufacturers
you are really reaching here.
most likely. they now censor their results making it harder to find non-main stream media content. they pull videos from youtube all the time. if you get into controversial issues you'll find this happening more.
All GPS manufacturers
they just make the parts. most of it is as it appears, but the how is not.
All satellite manufacturers
yup. there is this video of a crashed satellite in brazil with a balloon attached
All satellite dish cable companies
the higher ups would probably know. the rest have no idea.
They believe you can actually just point these satellite dishes anywhere and you'll receive the ground-based signals just fine.
no they don't. we believe balloons, high altitude drones... all means of accomplishing the same thing. also could bounce it off the dome.
Just about everyone on the internet who takes the time to explain an error to a flat earther (they are all paid shills)
nope. just a guy that found a way to live life as minimalistically as possible to support the life i've chosen.
Anyone who has been to Antarctica, The people who installed all the live stream cameras in Antarctica
no one said antarctica isn't there, what we do say is it is a border to our world.
The sailors who have circumnavigated Antarctica
it is a ring around us. why couldn't you travel around the edge of the ring?
Any HAM radio operator who claims to have bounced a signal off the ionoshere to get around the curvature of the earth
no one said the ionosphere isn't there.
The HAM radio operators who claim to have bounced radio signals off the moon to measure it's distance from the earth
no one said the moon isn't there.
Meteorologists
deal with the air in the atmosphere. when are they going to bump into this? of course the false size/shape of earth would screw up their predictions... perhaps that is why they are so bad at it. lol
Doppler radar manufacturers
again, why? non issue with shape of earth
Manufacturers and users of equatorial mount telescopes
why? the sky is clearly moving... no one is arguing that.
Anyone who has done a time lapse photo or video of the moon or sun that showed it staying the same size
flat earthers believe the sun and moon are exactly the same size. that is why eclipses work. ever follow the path of an eclipse? it is what started all this for me, the path on globe earth didn't make sense. but it does on a flat earth model, it is a perfect ring.
Everyone with a YouTube Channel or blog that debunks flat earth
bring the proof. but honestly you lost me here, what are you even saying?
Most media outlets
are you saying they are for or against?
Long distance shooters and snipers
because why? i saw one video claiming they had to adjust for the spin. one. i'd need more information on this one. then i'd need a study. because i don't trust the military to give me the truth.
Satellite phone, movie, and internet providers
well, they 'put a satellite up' do they really know how it is done? or are they just given access to the system in place and sold the lie that they actually put their own satellite (balloon or whatever is there) up there?
It just seems to me that if your belief system hinges on a conspiracy this large and that everyone who disagrees with you is a paid shill, well, you should probably reevaluate your belief system
jeepers, the government has never lied to me before /s
The Occam's Razor answer for the shape of the earth, it is not.
i'd say it is clearly in favor of a flat earth.
things you didn't bring up>>>
ship disappearing 'below horizon' reappears with zoom
chicago skyline across lake michigan
sun rays spread out they'd be straight down if the sun was really so far away.
where is the curve?
don't accept what you are given, decide for yourself.