it was a hard listen. i commented on X after 40 minutes not knowing where the conversation is headed. A lot of strong opinions on X :D
and the only thing i commented is how weird Murray was with going 100% on experts for WWII and against experts for the virus origin. From trust all the way for one and don't trust for other.
Hard to debate when there is heart or money involved. and even harder when really awful things are the subject of the debate.
You were not there argument works if you actually saw the thing happening. I can tell you i felt the shock wave, i can tell you where the bomb dropped, who dropped it, maybe even why (from info on the spot), but about something that happened 500km away, no way, and i could claim in a debate that i was there (as in the country).
And to be honest, really hard to know what the truth is. In the past it was lack of information, now it is to much of questionable information.
I remember seeing a News clip from two TV station (it was on youtube so it had to be at least 15 years after the war) the same footage on both TV stations with exact opposite report. One TV station for one side, second for the other side, and no way for most of the people to see both and go "i think they are laying to us"
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