I have only listened to the first 15 minutes of this, will catch it up and finish it later, but I am wondering what some of you think about this conversation. I have been searching for some cogent reasoning for the "pandemic" because I know it to be a false narrative. I'm not saying what this woman is talking about is 100% spot on, but I think she raises some very interesting points about the RESULTS, and if we can agree on what the RESULTS are, then we are given clues on what the GENESIS is. One of the reasons this is resonating with me is all of the cellphone-based tracing that is being promoted lately. I am generally not a big conspiracy fan, but the idea that you will not be able to work, buy, travel, or EXIST without showing someone an app that certifies where you have been and who you have been in contact with (vis a vis THEIR GPS data), that scares the crap out of me.