From: The Yahoo Redemption By Method Group. This is the Post from a blogger I hold in High Regard: Tim from Maximum Survival. Beneficial to all who read it!
How can a 3rd party debt collector prove you are subject to a unverified copy of something?
They cannot.
A copy in a court of law is a forged instrument.
They are operating by presumption.
First off, most debt collectors do not make a demand for payment anymore because they do not have a leg to stand on.
They say things like "your debt was placed with us for collection" or "We have been authorized to accept $XX...."
They count on re-contracting with you.
Did they actually make a demand? Re-read their first letter.
Redact the letter and post it here for fun.
letter off the top of my head. This letter is actually very long. Just for ideas.
Dear Mr Johnny Scum,
I received a copy of something you claim validates a debt.
I do not even see a sworn affidavit that the copy is of an original enforceable instrument.
Do you have the original contract on file, or did you print this up off the Internet?
Where did you get it? How do i know you have a right to demand payment from me?
I do not recall a contract with you. So we can all be friends i promise to pay all i owe.
When will you and the original note holder be available for deposition so we may verify your claim on the record.
There are so many things that can be required of a debt collector.
Ask them one letter at a time.
Wait for response.
Are you not a man? Do you not settle all controversy and accounts ASAP?
Why would you wait for a "court" to settle your "controversy"
Make an agreement. Due process to both the cop and the prosecutor (or whoever the adversary is)
You make a record.
The record held by a man with firsthand knowledge IS the "Court of Record"
"Court of Record" is not a place.
"Court of Record" is the record of authority by common/natural law evidenced on the record, verified by a man.
Everything has a root in common law. Every law form is created by the common power of man to contract.
In a nutshell:
- "I offer to pay all I owe" "i offer to settle verifiable claim"
- "give me the bill" "as soon as I get a bill and hear a man swear it is true, I will make an agreement with him"
- if you get a bill "where is the true bill so I know the bill is true and accurate"
- "could even use discovery rules to drag Plaintiff or attorney into a deposition to verify the claim. (it will be a quiet deposition)
- No bill, no verified claim. (no surprise here)
- 2nd notice. "I offer to pay all I owe"
- 2nd notice. No bill, no verified claim
- 3rd/Final notice. "I offer to pay all I owe"
- 3rd/Final notice. No bill, no verified claim
- Affidavit of Facts - List of all the acts that others did to threaten/harm you.
List of all the things you did to try and settle claim/dispute
(Affidavits are only for facts: i saw, i did, i heard, the record shows Ex. A, .........)
(Affidavits are NOT for conclusions, threats, dribble you found on the internet or facts from some other case)
No claims not already on record
- Notice of agreement. Affidavit attached
- Enter copy of all on court case
- Get certified copy back from clerk
- Go home and fuhgeddaboudit
- Court is for controversy and there is a record of agreement and no more controversy
If you are afraid and feel compelled to go to court
Do not talk about nuttin
Hand your process to bailiff to give to judge (Notice of Agreement on top so it is obvious what you have done)
If addressed by judge (testing you). You say "everything you need to know is in the record" (repeat as needed)
Judge: Explain this stuff to me.
You say: "Did you not go to law school?"
If he gets huffy then "Do i have to call a competency hearing?"
Now if you want to press your claim. I suggest a little more study and a little more due process first.
Any agreement of the parties is the law, for those parties in that specific case.
Any fact that i have gained as agreement by due process, is law that no judge can break/ignore.
That is why it is so important to take on your adversary prior to court, via due process.
Done right, you win before any need for a trial.
Any party can move up to higher law form at any time.
If you dance with your adversary using codes and policies, you consent to that law form in court.
Court is an extension of the party/law form moving a cause.
If you upgrade to natural/common law with your communications with your adversaries, then you can bind them to reality, a place they cannot stand.
If you decide then to visit court, you do so as a man with a claim, not a debtor/defendant.
People are looking for a court to do what they themselves have the authority to do.
Common law is the power to contract, not contract (which is a form of an agreement/contract), or modify contract.
That is some power. Use it. Noting done in a court can be rightly done without agreement.
There is no authority to trespass on an agreement. If no man will verify claim of debt/duty/controversy there is no case.
Someone I was helping recently hand delivered a simple handwritten offer to settle claim to prosecutor.
He took a witness. Fast forward to court date (I told him to not bother going but he did anyway)
Before the proceeding was officially underway, the assistant prosecutor announced to the Judge
"I have been ordered to not participate today"
That statement was picked up by the court reporter and is on the record.
The charges were driving without license (multiple).
The case against him is essentially dead.
This guy took the long road, but is currently moving his claim. & In another case the man I assisted settle the controversy before next court hearing. Cut the opposing attorney right out of the game.
The man's opening statement was "I have jurisdiction in this matter here today, don't I"
The judge’s response was "Yes sir, you have jurisdiction today"
Game, set, match, goodbye
Timmy
At Liberty and Peace
Expressly Reserving All Rights and Liberties
tim@maximumsurvival.com