To @hivewatcher
That's not it at all @hivewatcher.
I think that, Yes, we do need measures in place for keeping scam behavior off our blockchain. This is how we maintain our brand and the integrity of this asset we are building... However! We need to do this in a way that also maintains the stability and friendliness of our communities.
The goal is right.
Keep scamming activities to an absolute minimum on the blockchain...
But I think, and with growing consensus from many others, that HOW we go about securing the blockchain's integrity matters just as much.
The methods we implement have also got to maintain the friendliness we have all worked so hard to create within our growing brand culture. To not consider this within our policies and practices is to undermine the hard work many of us are doing inviting people far and wide (Big and Small accounts) to do their social and community building on the Hive Blockchain.
Being the police, the judge, and the jury isn't the right approach to creating the stability we need to continue to grow in a sustainable way.
What I would be interested in is:
What, specifically, your response is in regards to @regenerette's counters to your accusations.
What do you have to say about her response? ...and will you concede to allowing the community to be the jury in deciding if you are indeed leveling legitimate acquisitions and labels?
In addition to this... You haven't answered or given me a decent response as to the method improvements that we could implement. What do you think about the ideas I tabled for improving the processes around identifying and dealing with plagiarism and such activities?
What I see is that @regenerette has done her utmost, as a new person here on Hive, to become a part of our blockchain and community. She is even directly taking the time and effort to counter, publicly, your accusations.
I think you owe her a proper explanation of your actions.
This isn't going away... The environment here on Hive needs to continue to be one that supports new accounts and people putting real effort in.
If @regenerette is indeed telling the truth... what consequences should be leveled against you and your actions and accusations?
Is there room for you to be wrong because I think she's given some pretty solid rational for why the content she originally made use of was also found on another site. (hers!)
I myself have multiple websites with content that I have taken time and even spent money to create. Should I be punished for making use of my own content?
In addition to this... At what point does information gathered from a source translate into plagiarism when it is filtered, colored, utilized, measured, and ultimately dispensed by another?
Does this mean that we are ONLY in the role of making up our own news and discoveries and are NOT able to glean what we may from other people's thought process's and news reals? I mean there's pure and unadulterated information in it's purest sense... but then there is everything else which is most of what we see and read on the internet and books. Learnings stacked upon learnings like a blockchain of discovery! So directly copying word for word... YES! That's something we should never allow unless in small bits and by quoted sources... We all learned this in University 101 didn't we?!
So you can see how this is a very slippery slope and it's could easily turn into something a lot like judging figure skating in the Olympics. Opinions with consequences attached.
We have simply got to take the time to build a proper case before leveling blind accusations and this is why no one person should ever be able to have this amount of sole authority, especially on a platform that prides it's self in being censorship resistant and decentralized.
To add to this insight... this why, in the past, I have made suggestions that we default to software solutions so as to establish a percentage of word comparisons. That way the software it's self can identify the acts of plagiaristic activity and rather than one of us taking on the role of police, judge, and jury we can defer to an automated report that generated to pare with the incident report. Then this report can be voted upon with peoples powered up Hive.
This is the true power of DPoS and we should maximize it at every opportunity.
Another point to be considered:
Let's be honest here... If we are all doing our jobs properly in telling our friends, family members, and famous about Hive we are rapidly going to expand to the point where we have a multitude of new (and excited/exciting) people on our Hive Blockchain.
There is going to be a point (quickly) where it is going to be impossible to police Hive using the methods you have been using... This is only going to spread risk throughout the system and also your going to have gaps and unfriendly outcomes that will compound from them.
The level of thinking that's gotten us to this point will certainly NOT get us to the next level.
If you are right or wrong in your assessment of this situation means little to what needs to be done to improve how we go about dealing with plagiaristic behaviors going forward.
This way of thinking about solving the problem is the equivalent to painting ourselves into a corner.
This is why I am advocating for @regenerette. (And I believe that there are others like her as well... So this has all got to be said.)
I honestly think that she is sincere in her desire to contribute in wholesome ways to our community and blockchain. I don't think that your determination can be the end all be all... and if it is... then this practice isn't sufficient and will need to change, adapt, and improve... If it does not there will certainly be all sorts of consequences for us all.
A Potential Solution For Now
So how about we settle this... once and for all.
@regenerette... Would it be possible for you to prove yourself to the Hive community by first posting some original content to Hive... and then following up right away with the posting of that same content (afterwards) to your original website?
I realize that this feels terrible to not be trusted, to be labeled, to be policed and then judged by one person... But I think that trust is EVERYTHING with regards to the social capital we all earn here on the Hive Blockchain...
Establishing trust and defending it's integrity is worth the effort and if there is a way to do this nothing should be spared in the protection of your identity in this way.
If you do this people (and the right ones!) will rally around you and we will all politely ask @hivewatchers and those consolidated around those ideals to changed their policies, practices and adapt their methodologies to a higher standard here on the Hive Blockchain.
Most people wouldn't fight as hard as you have to stay if wrongly accused... They would simply walk away and begin spreading less than good will to those they are in contact with.
It's time to nip this in the bud and show people another way to combat plagiarism on the Hive platform... a way that's mitigates mistakes and improves the friendly fun we are all having here.
I believe that I can speak the way I have in this comment because I am an honest person, a business owner for many years, and a Hive maximalist investor doing all of the above on our blockchain.
I care a great deal about how things are going on the Hive Blockchain. Not only is this about the future of all our collective efforts... my and everyone's future hangs in the balance with how we all decided to show up and how we all treat our own.
Hive has ABSOLTUELY got to be a friendly place to invite people to... or this place is going to go by the way side... if not rapidly very slowly and painfully.
Decentralized growth means everybody has to act as an owner and step into the gaps that appear. It's our edge but it's also our weak link.
So yes.
Thank you @regenerette for standing up to this way of doing things on the Hive Blockchain. I do believe that how we maintain the security of our blockchain in regards to plagiarism does matter and I believe that you believe this as well.
And because I believe that 2 brains are better than one... I'm also going to tag @apshamilton in this conversation, seeing as he is the legal mind amongst us. As well, he is a Witness and someone who cares about the goings on of this blockchain.
Thank you @apshamilton for taking a look at the particulars of this situation.
NOTE TO ALL:
If you have read to the bottom of this comment it means that you care about the same things I do. I hope that you (my fellow Hive Owners) can weigh in here as I think the way plagiarism is addressed on this platform needs to continue evolving along with the decentralized solutions and censorship resistant structure that we are actively innovating on the Hive Blockchain.
Thank you for reading the entirety of this comment.
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